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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
1. What is DJML?
2. Who administers the DJML?
3. Who hosts the DJML?
4. How is the DJML supported?
5. Who started the DJML and when?
6. Who can belong to the DJML?
7. How do I subscribe to, and unsubscribe from the DJML?
8. What is the difference between subscribing to the Regular format
and the Digest format?
9. Which format, Regular or Digest, is better to subscribe to?
10. How many people belong to the DJML?
11. What is the charge or fee, if any, to subscribe to the DJML?
12. If I subscribe to the DJML, how many messages can I expect to
receive per day?
13. What does "unmoderated" mean in reference to the DJML?
14. What are the DJML Policies?
15. What is the meaning of the word "flame"?
16. What specific guidelines (content) should I follow when posting to
the DJML?
17. When replying to a message that has been posted on the DJML, how do
I indicate to whom I am replying?
18. How do I decide what the title or subject of a message should be?
19. How much information should be included with my signature on a
post to the DJML?
20. How should I handle a deliberately nasty or abusive message on
the DJML?
21. I have a picture, piece of sheet music, or some other document that
I would like to share with other members of the DJML. How do I do
this?
22. May I send attached files or encoded messages to the DJML?
23. Is it OK to use HTML when posting to the DJML?
24. May I post a message to the DJML warning of a e-mail computer virus
or of some other non-jazz related subject?
25. What is "Netiquette?"
26. When responding to a message on the DJML, how much of the original
message should be quoted?
27. How can I read past messages that have been posted on the DJML?
28. I sometimes see acronyms, or groups of letters used in postings to
the DJML. What are the meanings of the following?
29. What is :-) and other cryptic strings of characters?
30. I am sending e-mail to someone who I know has a good address. But,
the e-mail is bouncing back (being returned) to me. Why?
31. What is Jazz?
32. What is Dixieland Jazz?
33. Where does the term "Jazz" or "Jass" come from?
34. Who was the ODJB?
35. Who was Jelly Roll Morton and did he really invent Jazz?
36. What is meant by the terms "2 Beat" and "4 Beat.", when applied to
Jazz?
37. I was removed from the mailing list. Why?
38. I am receiving the mailing list, but I can't post. Why?
1. What is the DJML?
The DJML (Dixieland Jazz Mailing List) is an unmoderated (See #13),
Internet mailing list, created and maintained for the free exchange of
information, ideas and thoughts, pertaining to America's original art
form known as Dixieland Jazz (See #31 and #32), Classic Jazz or
Traditional Jazz. This type of jazz is often referred to in postings to
the DJML by the acronym "OKOM", (our kind of music). (See #28)
2. Who administers the DJML?
The DJML is maintained by Randy Wood (RandyWood@dixielandjazz.org)
3. Who hosts the DJML?
The DJML is provided free of charge by Islandnet in the memory of DJML's
founder, Peter Lovric.
4. How is the DJML supported?
The DJML is provided free of charge by Islandnet of Victoria, BC and no
donations or paid memberships are solicited.
5. Who started the DJML and when?
The DJML was founded by Peter Lovric on March 13, 1995. Peter passed
away on September 8, 1997.
6. Who can belong to the DJML?
Anyone who has Internet access may belong (subscribe), free of charge,
to the DJML.
7. How do I subscribe to, and unsubscribe from the DJML?
There are two subscription options, "Regular" and "Digest". Before
subscribing, read #8 and #9 for an explanation of these options.
You may subscribe to the regular format of the DJML by doing the
following:
Send an e-mail message to:
dixielandjazz-request@listserv.islandnet.com
with just the word "subscribe" (no quotes) in the subject area, and no
text at all in the body of the message.
To unsubscribe from the regular format of the DJML, do the following:
send an e-mail message to:
dixielandjazz-request@listserv.islandnet.com
with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) in the subject area, and no
text at all in the body of the message.
Note: If your server won't accept a message that has a blank text, try
just putting 1 space or perhaps a couple of dashes in it.
For an explanation of the 2 subscription formats, see #8 and #9.
You may subscribe to the digest format of the DJML by doing the
following:
send an e-mail message to:
dixielandjazz-d-request@listserv.islandnet.com
with just the word "subscribe" (no quotes) in the subject area, and no
text at all in the body of the message.
To unsubscribe from the digest format of the DJML, do the following:
Send an e-mail message to:
dixielandjazz-d-request@listserv.islandnet.com
with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) in the subject area, and no
text at all in the body of the message.
Note: If your server won't accept a message that has a blank text, try
just putting 1 space or perhaps a couple of dashes in it.
For an explanation of the 2 subscription formats, see #8 and #9.
8. What is the difference between subscribing to the Regular format
and the Digest format?
REGULAR FORMAT:
If you are subscribed to the regular format, messages posted to the List
will be sent to you directly after they have been posted.
DIGEST FORMAT:
If you are subscribed to the digest format, messages posted to the List
will be held until there are 20 or 30 messages. Then, all of these
messages are sent to you in 1 large message.
9. Which format, Regular or Digest, is better to subscribe to?
This is strictly personal preference. There are advantages to both
formats.
REGULAR FORMAT:
If you subscribe to the regular format, you get an almost instantaneous
copy of any messages that are posted to the list. You are then able to
reply immediately to the list.
However, remember that the DJML is a very busy list with sometimes as
many as 60 or 80 messages being posted in 1 day. This can overwhelm
some subscribers, especially if they are new to an Internet mailing list.
DIGEST FORMAT:
The DJML digest format stores up 20 or 30 messages and then sends all of
them to you in 1 large message. Some people feel that by receiving the
1 large message, it is easier to handle off-line, (download and sort).
a. Valuable on-line time is not used up.
b. Your telephone line is not tied up for long periods of time.
c. You can more easily & efficiently sort the messages.
d. If you don't have time to read the DJML today, you can just delete
a single message instead of several dozen.
Of course, if you have unlimited time or a separate phone line
then you don't have to worry about (a) and (b).
Remember, subscribing to the digest format means that messages are
delayed so that you do not get the posted message immediately. Thus you
can not then send an immediate reply. However, most of the time this delay
is negligible.
10. How many people belong to the DJML?
The amount of people who are subscribed varies from day to day.
However, there is at present over 600 members.
11. What is the charge or fee, if any, to subscribe to the DJML?
There is no charge other than the charges you must already pay to
connect to the Internet.
12. If I subscribe to the DJML, how many messages can I expect to
receive per day?
The DJML is a very busy mailing list. The amount of messages that you
could receive in 1 day will vary. However, you could expect to receive
as few as 20 and as many as 60 - 80 messages per day.
13. What does "unmoderated" mean in reference to the DJML?
The DJML is an unmoderated mailing list. This means that the messages
that are posted to the List are automatically distributed to all members
without being censored. Because of this, it is every member's
responsibility to follow common guidelines for email etiquette,
(netiquette), (See #25), and accepted DJML policies, (See #14).
14. What are the DJML Policies?
a. Be polite and courteous.
b. Don't Flame. (See #15)
c. Don't disparage other people's questions or opinions.
d. Be tolerant and forgiving - A lot of folks who find themselves here
are new to Dixieland, computing, the Internet and electronic mail.
e. Give folks the latitude to make mistakes. If you feel that it is
necessary for you to correct their mistakes, be polite and
courteous. Be constructive about it and do so via private e-mail -
not publicly on the DJML.
f. Humor of course, is always welcome, as long as it pertains in some
way to Dixieland Jazz. (See #29)
g. As a general rule, refrain from posting off-topic messages. (See
#16)
h. Do not post personal messages on the DJML unless they are of
interest to the entire membership. (See #16)
i. When replying to a previous post, identify the person who
originally posted the message. (See #17)
j. When choosing a title for your message, try to use words that
accurately convey the content of the message. (See #18)
k. Always sign your postings. (See #19)
l. Do not reply to rude, abusive or malicious postings. (See #20)
m. Never send encoded messages or attached files to the DJML. (See
#21, #22 and #23)
n. Never send chain letters or virus announcements to the DJML
(they're usually bogus). (See #24)
o. Remember, e-mail etiquette (netiquette). (See #25)
15. What is the meaning of the word "flame"?
A posting that is intentionally abusive, disparaging or in some other
way negative towards person(s) rather than fact(s).
From the Foldoc Computing Dictionary:
An electronic mail or Usenet news message intended to insult,
provoke or rebuke, or the act of sending such a message.
Sometimes a flame will be delimited by marks such as "flame
on...flame off".
A good rule of thumb to follow on flaming is: don't say anything on the
mailing list that you wouldn't be willing to say to someone's face.
16. What specific guidelines (content) should I follow when posting to
the DJML?
The DJML was established as a cyberspace gathering place for people who
have a common interest in Dixieland Jazz. (See #1) Thus, it is
generally considered inappropriate to post messages on the DJML that do
not, in some way pertain to, or closely relate to, Dixieland Jazz.
The DJML is a friendly list. Because of this, a certain amount of off-
topic bantering is bound to take place between friends. However,
posting personal messages addressed to one other person and messages
that are not of interest to the membership in general should be avoided.
Bear in mind that there are hundreds of members from all over the world
subscribed to the DJML. Before posting a message ask yourself the
following questions:
a. Does the subject matter relate to Dixieland Jazz?
b. Is the subject matter of interest to the membership as a whole?
If the answers are "no", send your message via private e-mail.
17. When replying to a message that has been posted on the DJML, how do
I indicate to whom I am replying?
When replying to a message that has been posted on the DJML, identify
the person who originally posted the message that you are replying to.
Example: "On Sat, 31 Jan 1998 21:02:28 -0600, Betty Jane wrote in part:".
Most email clients will insert this information automatically when replying
to a message.
18. How do I decide what the title or subject of a message should be?
When choosing a title for your message, use words that accurately reflect
the content of the message. If you are replying to a posting and the
content (direction) of the message has not changed, use the same title,
adding the word "Re:" as the first word of the subject.
(Note, some e-mail programs will automatically add this word for you.)
If you are replying to someone posting and the content (direction) of
the message has changed, change the title to reflect the new content of
the message. To make the transition from old subject to new subject on
the same thread, you might consider using both titles. Example:
(Rhythm Sections - Tuba.)
19. How much information should be included with my signature on a
post to the DJML?
The DJML is a friendly mailing list. While on some lists people
prefer to remain anonymous, it is a commonly accepted practice on the
DJML to sign postings. We suggest that you give your name, city, state
and country and your e-mail address.
You may also wish to include other information such as your snail-mail
address, telephone number, FAX number, web site, instrument, band
affiliation, etc. However, if you post to the DJML often, avoid lengthy
tags as they become annoying to other members when seen over and over.
20. How should I handle a deliberately nasty or abusive message on
the DJML?
If a deliberately nasty, abusive and malicious posting should show up on
the DJML, DO NOT dignify it by replying. Refrain from referring to it
in other messages that you may be posting. Acknowledging such postings
merely feeds the ego of the sender and accomplishes nothing. The
problem will be handled by the DJML maintainer. The offending person
will be warned. If the problem persists, the offender will be removed
from the mailing list and his/her address will be blocked from
resubscribing.
21. I have a picture, piece of sheet music, or some other document that
I would like to share with other members of the DJML. How do I do
this?
NEVER send encoded or attached files via the DJML. (See #22)
If you have material that you would like to share with members of the
list, post a note stating what you have and ask that anyone desiring the
information e-mail you privately or provide an address (such as a web page
URL) where the information can be accessed. Then send the information as
requested privately, not via the mailing list.
22. May I send attached files or encoded messages to the DJML?
DO NOT send attachments to the DJML. This includes:
- images (JPEG, GIF, TIFF, BMP, PCX, etc)
- sounds (AIFF, AU, WAV, SND, MP3, etc)
- MIDI files (MID, MIDI)
- compressed archives (ZIP, Stuffit, SEA, etc)
- other binary files (EXE, COM, other executables)
- anything else big (more than a few kilobytes)
These attachments are large. They:
a. Bog down the mailing list server.
b. Flood the mailboxes of hundreds of users who might not want the
attachment. (Many users cannot accept large attachments so they
bounce back to the mailing list administrator. He then has to
spend many hours wading through the returned mail.)
c. Fill up the storage disks on the DJML archives. (See #27)
Basically, the only acceptable type of posting is human-readable text -
and even then discretion is a must.
23. Is it OK to use HTML when posting to the DJML?
All messages sent to the DJML should be in plain text. Many newer email
clients allow HTML format email to be sent so that fonts, colors, and
other information can be used to stylize the text. While this at first
seems like a very nice feature, not everyone has such an email client
and so this formatted text is crowded with "tags" that can be very
confusing.
Here is an example of what the tags might look like to someone without
an HTML-capable email client (and this is just a small snippet that merely
says "hi all"):
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 =
HTML//EN">
<META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
24. May I post a message to the DJML warning of a e-mail computer virus
or of some other non-jazz related subject?
DO NOT post messages such as computer virus warnings, potential
telephone company rate increases, or any other mass mailing chain
letter type of messages. Besides being off-topic, most of these
messages are hoaxes. Posting such messages on the DJML flood the
mailboxes of hundreds of users. They also take up valuable disk space
in the DJML on-line archives (See #27)
For up-to-date information on computer virus hoaxes, see:
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html
25. What is "Netiquette?"
"Netiquette" is etiquette on the Internet including electronic mail. It
is nothing more than simple common courtesy, common sense and consideration
for others.
26. When responding to a message on the DJML, how much of the original
message should be quoted?
You may quote a small portion of the message that you are responding to
as this will remind others of the subject matter. However, DO NOT quote
the entire message. Edit out any unnecessary parts. Remember,
excessive quoted material can make your reply difficult and boring to
read. It is also unfair to others who may be paying for their on-line
service by the minute. The excessive quoted material, when accumulated
in thousands of messages, take up valuable space in the DJML Archives.
(See #27)
27. How can I read past messages that have been posted on the DJML?
All messages that are posted on the DJML are saved and are available to
be read. You may do this by going to the "DJML Search" Page at:
http://www.islandnet.com/djml/archive.html
and following the directions.
28. I sometimes see acronyms, or groups of letters used in postings to
the DJML. What are the meanings of the following?
ASAP = as soon as possible
BFD = big (expletive deleted) deal
BTW = by the way
BYAM = between you and me
DJML = dixieland jazz mailing list
F2F = face to face (a get together or gathering of members of the DJML)
See http://www.islandnet.com/djml/meet.html
FWIW = for what it's worth
FYI = for your information
IMHO = in my humble opinion
IMO = in my opinion
ITMT = in the meantime
ISP = Internet service provider (company that provides your Internet access)
LOL = laugh out loud
MKOM = my kind of music
ODJB = Original Dixieland Jass Band (See #34)
OKOM = our kind of music (See #1)
PITA = pain in the *rear*
ROTFL = rolling on the floor laughing
ROTFLMAO = rolling on the floor laughing my *rear* off
RTFM = read the (expletive deleted) manual
SPAM = unsolicited computer generated e-mail, (usually some sort of
advertizement or chain letter.) SPAMming is considered to be a
serious violation of netiquette and can result in the loss of your
Internet account. (See #25)
TIA = thanks in advance
TKOM = their kind of music
URL = universal resource locator (The Internet adress of a web site)
YKOM = your kind of music
29. What is :-) and other cryptic strings of characters?
These are "emoticons", icons which express some emotion such as humor,
anger, irritation, irony, and other facial expressions that can't be
conveyed electronically like they can in person. They are sometimes
referred to as "Smileys."
The classic smiley is :-) If you tilt your head to the left you'll
see two eyes, a nose and a smile.
Smileys are also very personalized. People like to create their own
smileys. For example, the DJML maintainer is also an avid downhill
skier so he uses the smiley 8^) since the 8 looks like ski goggles. The
^ is the nose. Here are some more smileys:
:-) = smiley
:) = smiley
:-( = frowning
;-) = winking
:-P = sticking out tongue
The unofficial smiley FAQ can be found at:
http://www.newbie.net/JumpStations/SmileyFAQ.html
30. I am sending e-mail to someone who I know has a good address. But,
the e-mail is bouncing back (being returned) to me. Why?
There are several reasons for email to bounce back to you. If you're
absolutely sure that you have the correct email address (you might
consider calling the person to verify), then you might be experiencing
one of the following:
a. The user's mailbox is full and their system won't allow any more
incoming mail.
b. The user's account is no longer active (perhaps they didn't pay
their bill or changed their ISP). (see #28)
c. The system where the user receives mail is down.
d. The network between your ISP and their server is down.
Usually a bounced email message will give you some information as to why
the mail bounced. In many cases, just waiting a few hours and trying
again will solve the problem. If the user's account is no longer
active, then you'll probably need to get a new address for that person.
You may be able to get information by writing to postmaster@ (the server
that you are trying to get e-mail to.)
31. What is jazz?
Contributed by Brian Towers
Jazz is America's original art form. It is a type of music that evolved
in the late 1800's and early 1900's. It was strongly influenced by
Ragtime, the working blues of slavery days, spirituals and gospel songs
from the church, marching military bands from the civil war era,
vaudeville and the concert hall. Rhythm and dynamics owe much to black
roots (but by no means exclusively), harmonies and instrumentation coming
from Creole or white roots.
Some essential ingredients are melody, rhythm, improvisation, emotion,
occasional vocalization, counterpoint (i.e. each instrument playing a
role in the ensembles in a certain manner).
See the "Red Hot Jazz Archive" at the following address for sound clips,
photos, and other useful information about the roots of Jazz:
http://www.redhotjazz.com/
32. What is Dixieland Jazz?
Contributed by Chris Tyle
Dixieland is a term used by the general public to identify jazz music
from the era prior to big-band swing. The name came into being from the
Original Dixieland Jass Band (q.v.), but they used it to simply indicate
where they were from (the South, specifically New Orleans), not as a
description of what they played, which they called Jass or Jazz.
The term "Dixieland" generally refers to jazz music played in an
improvisational, contrapuntal style, with a group consisting of trumpet,
clarinet, trombone, piano, bass instrument, banjo and drums.
33. Where does the term "Jazz" or "Jass" come from?
Contributed by Randy Wood
Many etymologists have tried to pinpoint the exact origin of the word
Jazz or Jass. There are many disputed origins of the term, all from
seemingly reliable sources. Regardless of the word's roots, in the
early 1900's "jass" was yet another 4-letter slang term for "sexual
intercourse" and was not a word used in polite society. From this
use, it also came to mean "excite" as in "jass me" or "excite me".
When Tom Brown brought his band northward, Chicago union members who
objected to the non-union New Orleans band described their music as
"jazz music", implying it was whore-house music. Though the term was
meant as an insult, it was affectionately adopted as the term used to
describe this new musical style (see #31 and #32). Tom Brown claimed
that the negative connotation actually was good advertising as many folks
came out to hear for themselves what "jazz" music was. Cafe owners would
soon put out signs in front claiming "Jazz band here tonight" to draw a
crowd.
Another disputed fact is how "jass" became "jazz". Some say that when
pranksters removed the "J" in "Jass" on posters advertising the music,
the "s" was changed to "z" to avoid the embarrassing result. Others
believe that jass/jazz were interchangeable terms before it was applied
to the musical style. Another version is that the "s" was changed
to "z" to avoid using the original term which was a "dirty" word.
Yet another disputed fact is which band was the first to use the word
"Jass/Jazz" in its title. Some claim it was the Original Dixieland Jazz
Band was the first (see #34). Eric Townley claims in his 1976 book "Tell
Your Story" that it was Stein's Dixie Jass Band that used the term first.
34. Who was the ODJB?
Contributed by Chris Tyle
The ODJB, or Original Dixieland Jazz (Jass) Band, was a group of five
musicians (Nick LaRocca, cornet; Larry Shields, clarinet; Eddie Edwards,
trombone; Henry Ragas, piano; Tony Sbarbaro, drums) from New Orleans,
who went to Chicago in 1916, then to NYC in 1917, where they performed
and made the first recordings of the music called jazz. Louis Armstrong
stated that the ODJB "Was the first group of musicians from New Orleans
to record our kind of music." The ironic thing is that they were all
white.
Editor's note:
The ODJB is alive and well as Nick LaRocca's son Jimmy is carrying on
the legacy of his father. Their web page can be found at:
http://members.aol.com/ODJBjazz/jazz.html
35. Who was Jelly Roll Morton and did he really invent Jazz?
Contributed by James Dapogny.
While it is obvious that no one person invented Jazz, in a letter to
DOWNBEAT magazine in August, 1938, the legendary pianist and composer,
Ferdinand Joseph LaMothe aka Jelly Roll Morton, claimed that he created
Jazz in 1902.
According to his baptismal certificate, Morton was born in New Orleans,
October 20, 1890. He died in Los Angeles, July 10, 1941.
Print: "Mister Jelly Roll", Alan Lomax, (Currently out of print.)
"Mr. Jelly Lord", (Bio-Discography) Laurie Wright.
Recordings: Library Of Congress, made May-December, 1938, with
interviewer Alan Lomax, contain interviews and
performances, available on several labels (none American).
36. What is meant by the terms "2 Beat" and "4 Beat.", when applied to
Jazz?
Contributed by Bob Ringwald
Most jazz songs are written with 4 beats per measure.
In "2 beat jazz," the bass instrument ie (tuba, bass, bass drum, left
hand on a piano) plays the first and third beats of the measure. The
second and forth beats, (off beats) are played (accented) by the banjo,
guitar, symbols, snare drum, right hand on the piano, etc.
In "4 beat jazz," the bass instrument, as well as the guitar or banjo
plays all 4 beats. The bass drum may play all 4 beats, or may just play
accents from time to time.
37. I was removed from the mailing list. Why?
If your account is unavailable for 4 deliveries in a row, your email address
will be removed from the list. The mailing list software does this to avoid
the returned or "bounced" mail which will come back when it's undeliverable.
To see why your email address may not have worked, see #30.
38. I am receiving the mailing list, but I can't post. Why?
Typically if you are receiving the DJML but you can't post a message to it,
it's because you have the address wrong. Be sure to post to:
dixielandjazz@listserv.islandnet.com
If you are sending your message to the correct address, but the message doesn't
go through, then it's probably bouncing to the list administrator. This can
happen if your email address changes. Often when you change your address,
your old address will forward mail to the new addres so you'll continue to
receive the DJML. However, since you're now posting from an address that's
not on the list, and since the DJML only accepts posts from subscribers, your
new email adress appears to be unknown and the mailing list software won't allow
it. To resolve this problem, unsubscribe your old address and subscribe your
new one. If you can't unsubscribe the old one, contact the list administrator
for assistance (See #2).
Thanks to the following for their assistance with this FAQ:
Lowell J Busching
James Dapogny
Gerald S Gordon
Bill Gunter
Bill Horton
Tamas Ittzes
Gary Kiser
Karen Quick
Brian Towers
Chris Tyle
Randy Wood
For submissions, comments and suggestions, please email mailto:ringwald@calweb.com
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any questions about this web site to RandyWood@dixielandjazz.org