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Leaky Condo Help
So you are a condo owner and you are
concerned you have a problem or know you do. The first reaction is
"What do I do now?". Well it may not be much consolation
but you are not alone. It is estimated that over 200,000 people in
BC are affected by this problem. Here is a rough guide getting
started with your condo:
- Do You have problem? If you meet any of the
following criteria chances are you do or should be investigating:
- Is your building a condominium built since
1980?
- Is your building clad in stucco, siding or
anything other than a solid titanium shell?
- Does your building lack an overhanging
roof?
- Have there been any reports of water
getting in where it shouldn't?
- Is your building near the water, or exposed
to wind?
- Okay you meet some or all the criteria, how do
you know for sure? First do a bit of investigation yourself:
- Are there any funny organic smells? If
so this can be mildew or rot.
- Is there any water damage to the
drywall? This can show up as punk spots or stains.
- Is there any visible damage? Railing
attachments the screws are loose in, stucco coming
off the walls, spongy deck areas, cracks in the stucco.
- Even if there is no apparent damage you are
not okay yet. The chief problem is not so much that the
condo's leak but they don't leak enough. Water finds it's
way into the wall structure and because there is no air
circulation or way for it to drain, it stays there. If you
have wet wood eventually Mother Nature takes over and rot
sets in. You can have no outward signs of damage and still
have a condo that is ready to collapse.
- How do I know for sure? The only real way
is to have your condo inspected by a certified
building envelope specialist. Typically they are either
an Engineer or an Engineering Technologist. Here is how they
can establish if you have problem or not:
- Cut Tests - a hole large enough to see
into the wall cavity is placed at an area prone to
damage. By doing this around the building the extent of
the damage can be established
- Moisture Probe Test - a small hole is
drilled into the wall and a probe is inserted to detect
the moisture content of the wall structure. This will
tell if there is excessive moisture in the wall
- Thermography - this test is fairly
complicated to apply - it requires a cold still night, no
dryers on or heat sources like lights, and expensive
equipment. Basically a picture is taken of a wall using
infrared film. Because moisture compromises the
insulation value of most insulation products the wall
will loose more heat in these areas and show up on the
picture
- Sprinkler tests - these are done by
spraying areas of concern with water and checking
through a hole in the interior wall for seepage.
Typically done around windows to test the integrity of
the window frames or installation
- Selective demolition - this literally
means taking a wall apart to see what is going on inside.
- The problems- #1 $COST$ - all these
tests require funding to perform - #2 Some people, including
council members, would rather not know. They have an
obligation to find out that is enforceable by the Strata
Property Act. As an owner you can first try encouraging
them, if that fails contact a lawyer to find out your
options. By delaying your repair costs can
increase dramatically. Damage from rot is not a linear
function - that is the damage increases say 2" this
year, 4" the next, 16" the third. The best
approach is:
- Start small, some simple tests in the
areas most prone to damage
- Engineers love to do tests, it is kind
of fun cutting holes in someone else's building,
spraying water around, and it gets them out of the
office - but I digress. Tell them exactly how much you
are willing to spend on preliminary tests and make them
fit it to your needs to your budget. You can expect to
pay anywhere from $1000.00 and up depending on the
amount of work your building needs to be assessed
- If damage is not found - breathe a
small sigh of relief, but make sure you go back on a
regular (yearly) basis and do follow up testing.
- If damage is found make sure you get a
full written report. You are about to enter the world of
the Leaky Condo. Get and read the HPO
Guide to repairs - do it now before you start
repairs
- The biggest issues to deal with on a Leaky
Condo is the emotional side and the funding. If you have a
problem start seeking out resources such as this site and
contact the Conduit group, Home Owner's Protection Office (They
have an excellent guide), and the help of legal and engineering
professionals. You can plan on having to deal with some or all
of the the following issues:
- Statute of Limitations - under the law you
have a fixed period of time from discovery of the problem to
entering into legal action. The legal process itself takes
some time so one of the first things you do should be to
contact a lawyer. It can be discouraging too, legal actions
literally take years to come to courts. If you are planning
to finance repairs through proceeds from a court case -
forget it. At best you will have to front the costs and hope
for a settlement. The best approach is to deal with the
reality that you the condo owner will have to foot the
complete bill.
- Denial - some people won't admit there is a
problem, they can't see water running across the floor - how
can there be a problem? It is not what you see that is the
problem, it is the insipid moisture in the walls doing the
dirty work. This is where having a professional envelope
specialist come in and talk to owners is important. Even
after this there will be those that will choose to deny
there is a problem, human nature I suppose, it is easier to
deny than to deal with.
- Anger - people seem to need something or
some one to focus their frustrations on. Since the culprits
that really are responsible aren't around, people are quite
willing to take it out on council members, those that
reported the problem or small dogs.
- Irrational or immoral behavior - some
people are intent on making this someone else's problem.
There will be those that refuse to pay (being unable to pay
is a different story and I will cover it next), try to flog
the unit on some unsuspecting sort (which is illegal if they
don't disclose what they know), or suggest the
"patch-up" approach. These people will engage in
all sorts of behavior to try and confuse the issue. It is
important to have the facts in black and white so rest of
the people are well informed and not swayed by ranting (you
have to get 75%+1 approval on the vote for a special
assessment for repairs)
- People who can't pay - there are going to
be people who can't pay and will have to default. In spite
of the claims by HPO this is a reality. This is a pretty
tough decision, you should try to make sure that these
people are aware of the resources available to them such as
HPO, and that they have sought the advice of a lawyer.
- Costs of repairs - it is a brutal reality
but in order to meet the required standards and to do an
adequate repair it is expensive. Patching up costs more in
the long run as does delaying. If you are going into repairs
make sure you have sufficient money including a contingency
to complete the repairs. There is nothing worse than going
through all the vote and everything else, getting ready to
repair or getting into the repairs and finding out you
either can't meet the bid price or run out of contingency
money in mid repairs.
- At this point you are probably starting to feel
overwhelmed. keep the faith, others have gone before you and we
are willing to help you through this.
DISCLAIMER - the above information is offered as
an opinion based on experience. You should seek professional
guidance on legal, engineering, safety, and other matters.
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